A biweekly podcast from NSTA on science teaching, science news, and anything else with “science” in it.

Science teachers Brian Bartel and Dale Basler discuss science news and science education with leading scientists, researchers, science writers, and other important figures in the field. A selection of links and notes accompanies each episode, enabling the listener to dig deeper into the topics discussed.

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About Your Hosts

Dale Basler

Brian Bartel

Dale Basler has been a teacher of science in Appleton, Wisconsin since 1998. He currently teaches physics and physical science at Appleton East High School.  Across the river, Brian Bartel has been teaching biology and chemistry at Appleton West High School since 2000.

Since 2001, Dale has also been serving as webmaster for his state’s science teacher organization, the Wisconsin Society of Science Teachers (WSST). In 2004, Dale was elected President-Elect of WSST and served for four years on the WSST Board of Directors. For two of those years, Dale served as President of WSST.  In 2001, Brian joined Dale in the Publications' Committee of WSST by serving as the newsletter editor for WSST.  Brian is currently the President of WSST (2007-2008).

In June of 2006, Dale and Brian started Periodicity, the podcast of the WSST.  Together they produced 52 episodes that discussed topics in science news and science education by interview key leaders in science. As co-host, Dale has received both local and national recognition for his interviews.

Dale is also an independent consultant and web page designer who specializes in work for institutions and organizations in education. 

Brian manages a blog at www.explodingsink.com and for the Wisconsin Discovery Educator Network.

Episodes (in reverse order)

Season 6

• Lab Out Loud 95: Helping Students Imagine Mars (2013.04.22)
  This week Brian and Dale talk with David Delgado, lead of the Imagine Mars project from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL). The Imagine Mars Project gives students a chance to work with scientists and engineers to build and design a future human community on Mars. Listen to learn about the project and other educational outreach opportunities from JPL.
• Lab Out Loud 94: Pick Your Poison (2013.04.08)
  This week's guest is Deborah Blum. Blum first joined Dale and Brian on their podcast Periodicity to talk about science journalism. Since then, Blum has written The Poisoner's Handbook: Murder and the Birth of Forensic Medicine in Jazz Age New York. Blum talks about poisons, forensic medicine, and literacy in the science classroom.
• Lab Out Loud 93: Making Connections Between Home and School Science (2013.03.25)
  Prompted by listener feedback, Brian and Dale talk this week with Sherri Smith Dodgson. As "Miss Science," founder of Discover Science 4 Kids, and co-founder of SciPreneur, Dodgson has been an active science educator both in and out of the classroom. Dodgson talks about her experiences working with getting kids interested in science.
• Lab Out Loud 92: STEM in Primary Classrooms (2013.03.11)
  As the Common Core State Standards in Math and English Language Arts are being adopted and implemented in classrooms nationwide, educators have been wondering if there will be any room left for science—especially for younger students. When Dale and Brian caught wind of a growing movement to increase STEM content in Minnesota elementary schools, they knew they had to investigate. Listen this week as Lab Out Loud talks with Doug Paulson, STEM Integration Specialist for the Minnesota Department of Education. Doug provides insight into Minnesota's statewide initiative to increase STEM content in primary classrooms.
• Lab Out Loud 91: BBC's Bang Goes the Theory (2013.02.25)
  This week Brian and Dale talk with Dr. Yan Wong, an evolutionary biologist and co-host of BBC's Bang Goes the Theory. Dr. Yan talks about producing the show (now available on BBC America), describes doing science in public, and gives us some ideas of science demonstrations you can do in your classroom.
• Lab Out Loud 90: Looking at Our DNA with 23andMe (2013.02.11)
  To prepare for this week's episode, Dale and Brian had to do some homework: spit into a tube. Carrying their DNA, this tube was mailed to 23andMe for analysis. With the results in hand, they were able to talk with Emily Drabant, a research community manager (with a PhD in neuroscience) at 23andMe. Emily talks about 23andMe, describes how to read the test results, and announces which host has more Neanderthal DNA.
• Lab Out Loud 89: NGSS Second Draft: What to Know (2013.01.22)
  With the recent release of the the Next Generation Science Standards second draft, Brian and Dale caught up with Ted Willard, Program Director for NSTA. In his role at NSTA, Ted supports teachers in the implementation of the Next Generation Science Standards. Ted guides listeners through the important points of the second draft, where to find more resources, and how to review and comment by January 29, 2013.
• Lab Out Loud 88: Making the Change from MSDS to SDS (2013.01.14)
  To kick of the new year, Dale and Brian caught up with Dr. Ken Roy to discuss safety in the science classroom (and throughout the school). Serving as the Safety Compliance Consultant for NSTA, Ken often writes about safety for The Science Teacher and Science Scope. Ken talks to us about OSHA's recent adoption of the Globally Harmonized System for the Classification and Labeling of Chemicals (GHS), which includes a change from Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) to Safety Data Sheets (SDS), and the use of standardized pictograms and harmonized hazard statements.
• Lab Out Loud 87: Using Technology in Science Instruction (2012.12.03)
  Have you been striving to use more technology in your science instruction? Brian and Dale's guest this week may have some insights for you. Randy Bell—co-author of Technology in the Secondary Science Classroom and Associate Dean and Professor of Science Education in the College of Education at Oregon State University—talks about the effective use of technology in the science classroom, the power of simulations in science instruction, and some important tech tools that have the power to engage students in science.
• Lab Out Loud 86: Questioning in Science (2012.11.19)
  Prompted from listener feedback, Dale and Brian talk with Christian Eatough, a science teacher from the MLC School in Sydney, Australia. Christian has been experimenting with the role of questioning in the science classroom, where he has been successful in getting students to ask questions to use them as the basis of practical work. Christian talks about science education in his school and shares his experiences using the Question Formulation Technique.
• Lab Out Loud 85: NASA Wavelength (2012.11.05)
  This week Brian and Dale learn about a new digital resource called NASA Wavelength. Organized by topic and audience level, NASA Wavelength delivers a powerful search of Earth and space science resources funded through NASA's Science Mission Directorate.
• Lab Out Loud 84: The Science of Good Cooking (2012.10.22)
  This week Dale and Brian talk with Guy Crosby about The Science of Good Cooking, written by Crosby and the editors of America's Test Kitchen. As science editor for America's Test Kitchen, Crosby advises the science content in Cook's Illustrated magazine, Cook's Country, and the popular PBS television cooking show America's Test Kitchen. Crosby talks about the science of good cooking and how it can be used to teach science (and to cook better food).
• Lab Out Loud 83: Sam Kean's Stories from the Human Genome (2012.10.08)
  After the summer release of The Violinist's Thumb and Other Lost Tales of Love, War, and Genius, As Written By Our Genetic Code, Brian and Dale got a chance to catch up with science writer Sam Kean. Sam talks about his book, science writing, and how educators might use his stories in the science classroom.
• Lab Out Loud 82: Science of the Summer Olympics (2012.09.24)
  As the school year begins, why not think back to the summer? Join Dale and Brian as they kick off their sixth season by talking with Senior Producer Mark Miano about NBC Learn's Science of the Summer Olympics. NBC Learn, the educational arm of NBC News, has been providing historic stories, images, and primary source documents available on demand to teachers, students and parents. Mark talks about NBC Learn and all of its educational programming and lessons available for science educators.

Season 5

• Bonus Episode! Lab Out Loud 81: Stephen Hawking comes to town (2012.06.11)
  In this bonus episode, Brian and Dale talk with Dr. Kip Thorne (world-renowned physicist and longtime friend and colleague of Stephen Hawking) about the wonders of modern physics. Plus, they're giving away our tickets to see Stephen Hawking!
• Lab Out Loud 80: Paul Herder and the National Ocean Sciences Bowl (2012.05.14)
  For their final episode of the year, Dale and Brian talk with Wisconsin colleague Paul Herder. As coach of the Marshfield High School National Ocean Sciences Bowl team, Paul has led the team to win the NOSB for four consecutive years. Paul talks about the regional and final competitions, his recent retirement from teaching, and what he is now doing with his life.
• Lab Out Loud 79: Vernier's Game-Changer (2012.04.23)
  Brian and Dale's guest this week is the cofounder of Vernier Software & Technology, David Vernier. David talks about the history of the company, his popular software and data collection hardware, and the release of two new products that are part of Vernier's Connected Science System—the LabQuest2 and Graphical Analysis iOS app.
• Lab Out Loud 78: "Hunting the Elements" and other resources from NOVA (2012.04.02)
  In anticipation of NOVA's upcoming "Hunting the Elements" special and app, Dale and Brian got in touch with Rachel Connolly, NOVA's Director of Education. Rachel talks about the show and its accompanying app, NOVA's "Hunting the Elements" periodic tweets, and other resources from NOVA. Listen to the show and watch "Hunting the Elements," airing 4/4/12 on PBS.
• Lab Out Loud 77: Gaming for Science (2012.03.19)
  Brian and Dale's guest this week is Zoran Popovic. As director for the Center for Game Science at the University of Washington, Zoran helped create (with David Baker and Seth Cooper) Foldit, a popular online game that teaches protein folding and ultimately allows scientists to discover protein structures through crowdsourcing and community collaboration. Zoran talks about Foldit and using games to help solve problems facing humanity.
• Lab Out Loud 76: Not Another Lab Report (2012.03.05)
  Dale and Brian's guest this week is Fred Ende. As a middle-school science teacher, Fred quickly became frustrated with cookie-cutter, partial inquiry and simple scientific method lab reports that rarely engaged students in the content. Deciding to change this mode, Fred created open-ended lab experiences where students investigated their own questions, became interested in sharing their work, and ultimately improved their scientific writing. Fred talks to Lab Out Loud about his experience in making scientific writing more relevant and student-centered.
• Lab Out Loud 75: Superbowl of the Mind (2012.02.20)
  This week Brian and Dale talk with Jon Dudas, president of FIRST (For Inspiration and Recognition of Science and Technology). Dudas talks to Lab Out Loud about their upcomingrobotics competitions, how they teach kids how to try, fail and succeed, and how hands-on robotic lessons can enhance the classroom experience and spark interest in science education and careers.
• Lab Out Loud 74: There's a Zombie in My Classroom (2012.02.06)
  This week Dale and Brian talk with Dr. Steven Schlozman, Assistant Professor of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and Lecturer in Education at the Harvard Graduate School of Education. Schlozman talks about his start in teaching, his recent book The Zombie Autopsies: Secret Notebooks from the Apocalypse and how to use zombies to teach science.
• Lab Out Loud 73: Hack Your Bio Class (2012.01.16)
  As science educators are increasingly reporting attacks on climate change education, the National Center for Science Education (NCSE) is announcing that they will also be defending climate change science in public school science education. Join Dale and Brian as Dr. Eugenie Scott explains this new initiative for NCSE by adding climate change to their portfolio in defending good science education.
• Lab Out Loud 72: 2011 Science Breakthroughs of the Year (2012.01.09)
  To kick off the new year, Brian and Dale invited Pamela Hines, senior editor at Science, to talk about science in 2011. From the farthest reaches of the universe to the deepest mysteries of the cell, Hines highlights the major science breakthroughs of 2011. Listen to the episode to hear about these discoveries and what we might expect to see in 2012.
• Lab Out Loud 71: Hack Your Bio Class (2011.12.19)
  For the last episode of 2011, Dale and Brian talk with journalist and author Marcus Wohlsen. Wohlsen is a science writer for the Associated Press who has received abundant praise for his recent book Biopunk: DIY Scientists Hack the Software of Life. Listen to the episode as Wohlsen talks about his book, the underground community of "biopunks," and how you might hack your biology curriculum.
• Lab Out Loud 70: Go Back in Time with Terra Tempo (2011.12.05)
  Brian and Dale welcome David Shapiro to the show to talk about his graphic novel Terra Tempo: Ice Age Cataclysm. Shapiro is the creative director and writer at Craigmore Creations, a publishing house that specializes in Earth science and natural history stories. In Terra Tempo, Shapiro's young characters travel back in time to Glacial Lake Missoula and witness the resulting floods when the ice dam breaks. Listen to the episode and engage your students in natural history with Terra Tempo.
• Lab Out Loud 69: Success With Science (2011.11.21)
  Ever wanted your students to conduct scientific research? This week's guest has some insights for you. A second-place winner in the Intel Science awards in 2006, Shiv Gaglani is now a graduate of Harvard working to spur interest in STEM among students. Dale and Brian talk with Shiv about his book (and website) "Success with Science," how to engage your students in scientific research, and the importance of STEM in our economy.
• Lab Out Loud 68: Modeling Instruction in the Science Classroom (2011.11.07)
  This week Brian and Dale talk with Mark Schober about using Modeling Instruction in the science classroom. As president of the American Modeling Teacher's Association, Mark shares the history of modeling, ideas on how it can be used in the classroom, and the belief that it's not just for physics courses.
• Lab Out Loud 67: Take a Field Trip … In Your Classroom (2011.10.24)
  This week's guest is Jamie Loizzo, project manager for Purdue zipTrips&#trade;. A zipTrip is an electronic, interactive field trip that connects students across the country to scientists at Purdue University. Through the experience, students are able to observe real-life science laboratories, research, and science careers. Listen to the interview and take your kids on a zipTrip!
• Lab Out Loud 66: But Are They Really Learning? (2011.10.10)
  Dale and Brian discuss teaching techniques with Frank Noschese. Frank is a high school physics teacher at John Jay High School in Cross River, NY, and an active blogger. Frank shares his thoughts about blogging, active student engagement, flipped classrooms, psuedoteaching, and the Khan Academy. Join the conversation and leave your comments.
• Lab Out Loud 65: Framing a New Vision for Science Education (2011.09.26)
  Brian and Dale kick off their 2011–2012 season by talking science standards with Jonathan Osborne from Stanford University. As a committee member who helped draft the Conceptual Framework for New Science Education Standards released this summer, Osborne talks to us about science practices, cross-cutting concepts, and core ideas found within the framework.

Season 4

• Lab Out Loud 64: A Visit with Science Olympiad (2011.05.09)
  This week Brian and Dale talk with Shane Peterman, PR Manager at ThinkGeek.com. In March, ThinkGeek introduced "Take These Broken Things," a program where they were thinking about sending boxes of broken stuff to deserving groups (like a school technology lab or a FIRST Robotics team). They talk with Shane about the program, re-purposing electronics, and about the products available at ThinkGeek.com.
• Lab Out Loud 63: ThinkGeek and Re-purposing Electronics (2011.04.18)
  This week Brian and Dale talk with Shane Peterman, PR Manager at ThinkGeek.com. In March, ThinkGeek introduced "Take These Broken Things," a program where they were thinking about sending boxes of broken stuff to deserving groups (like a school technology lab or a FIRST Robotics team). They talk with Shane about the program, re-purposing electronics, and about the products available at ThinkGeek.com.
• Lab Out Loud 62: The Sitcom Experiment (2011.04.4)
  Bill Prady, Executive Producer and co-creator of the CBS sitcom The Big Bang Theory, joins Dale and Brian to talk about one of their favorite science shows.
• Lab Out Loud 61: Google's Global Science Fair (2011.03.21)
  Brian and Dale talk with Google's Cristin Frodella about the Google Global Science Fair 2011. In partnership with CERN, the LEGO Group, National Geographic, and Scientific American, Google has created an exciting new global science competition to help celebrate young scientific talent and engage students in science. Learn how to submit a project, then later to see and vote for some of the best projects.
• Lab Out Loud 60: Paleontology: Adventure with a Purpose (2011.03.07)
  Dale and Brian talk with Dr. Paul Sereno, the world-renowned paleontologist and Professor of Organismal Biology and Anatomy at the University of Chicago.
• Lab Out Loud 59: The Courage to Teach (2011.02.21)
  This week Brian and Dale discuss evolution education with Dr. Eric Plutzer, coauthor of "Defeating Creationism in the Courtroom, But Not in the Classroom"—a recently published article in Science magazine. Dr. Plutzer discusses the paper and what the results reveal about how much evolution is actually being taught in biology classrooms across the nation.
• Lab Out Loud 58: Exploring New Worlds with Kepler (2011.02.07)
  This week's guest is Dr. Natalie Batalha, co-investigator of NASA's Kepler Team. Dr. Batalha talks to us about her love of science (especially physics), the Kepler mission, and the discovery of planet Kepler 10b.
• Lab Out Loud 57: Preventing Bad Science in the Classroom (2011.01.24)
  Finishing their UK virtual tour, Dale and Brian meet up with with Dr. Ben Goldacre, author of Bad Science: Quacks, Hacks and Big Pharma Flacks. Dr. Goldacre talks to us about interpreting scientific results, the tricks used to deceive us, and how science teachers might combat bad science in the classroom.
• Lab Out Loud 56: More Chemistry Videos from the PTOV (2011.01.10)
  To kick off the International Year of Chemistry, Brian and Dale talk with Dr. Martyn Poliakoff and Dr. Samantha Tang from The Periodic Table of Videos. Having completed all videos for all 118 elements, the team is working on updating every element video while adding other videos, such as molecular videos and chemical definition videos. Drs. Poliakoff and Tang talk to us about upcoming events in the International Year of Chemistry and their work with Periodic Table of Videos.
• Lab Out Loud 55: Science Comedian Brian Malow (2010.12.20)
  This week Dale and Brian talk (and laugh with) Brian Malow, a science comedian and video correspondent for Time magazine's website. Malow talks to us about about science and comedy, communicating science, and even lesson planning.
• Lab Out Loud 54: The Encyclopedia of Life (2010.12.06)
  Originally imagined by Harvard biologist E.O. Wilson as "an electronic page for each species of organism on Earth," The Encyclopedia of Life is a free, online, collaborative encyclopedia intended to document every living species known to science. It is compiled from existing databases and from contributions by experts and non-experts throughout the world. This week Brian and Dale talk with Dr. Marie Studer (EOL Learning and Education Director) and Mr. Bob Corrigan (EOL Product Manager and Acting Deputy Director) to learn about the EOL, how to participate in the project, and how it can be used in the classroom.
• Lab Out Loud 53: Science We Can Learn (2010.11.15)
  Dale and Brian talk with Daniel M. Carchidi (Publication Director) and Dr. Natalie Kuldell (instructor) about MIT OpenCourseWare (OCW). OCW is a web-based publication of virtually all MIT course content, open and available to the world. (How do you learn science? Join the conversation at www.laboutloud.com to share your favorite classes, media sources, or other ways to learn about science.)
• Lab Out Loud 52: Science We Can Read About (2010.11.01)
  The Lab Out Loud hosts discuss their favorite science books and talk to author Sam Kean. Sam discusses the periodic table, scientific discovery, and storytelling in his new book The Disappearing Spoon: And Other True Tales of Madness, Love, and the History of the World from the Periodic Table of the Elements.
• Lab Out Loud 51: Science We Can Blog About (2010.10.18)
  Rhett Allain, an associate professor of physics at Southeastern Louisiana University, joins Brian and Dale to discuss science teaching and his popular blog Dot Physics. What science blogs do you follow? Join the conversation at laboutloud.com to share your favorite science blogs and websites.
• Lab Out Loud 50: Science We Can Watch (2010.10.04)
  Mythbuster Kari Byron talks about her new show Head Rush on The Science Channel. Airing after school and and on Saturdays, Head Rush provides a commercial-free hour of MythBusters mashups.
• Lab Out Loud 49: Science We Can Listen To (2010.09.20)
  Lab Out Loud kicks off its fourth season with an interview from John Linnell of "They Might Be Giants." John talks about science and music and how they come together on their recent album (CD & DVD) "Here Comes Science."

Season 3

• Lab Out Loud 48: Don't Be Such a Scientist (2010.05.10)
  For their 100th podcast interview (including 52 interviews with Periodicity), Dale and Brian talk with former marine biologist turned filmmaker and author Randy Olson. Since their last interview with Randy about Flock of Dodos, he has since put out another movie (Sizzle: A Global Warming Comedy) and a book (Don't Be Such a Scientist). The talk this time is about Randy's new book and the importance of how scientists communicate.
• Lab Out Loud 47: Evolution for the Young Reader(2010.04.26)
  Brian and Dale's guest this week is Daniel Loxton, editor of Junior Skeptic and an author/illustrator. Daniel talks about Junior Skeptic, shepherding, and his new book: Evolution: How We and All Things Came to Be.
• Lab Out Loud 46: Paleontologist Scott from Dinosaur Train (2010.04.12)
  You may know this week's guest as Paleontologist Scott from the PBS hit show Dinosaur Train. In this episode, Paleontologist Scott talks about the show, being a paleontologist, and his new book Dinosaur Odyssey.
• Lab Out Loud 45: Science Fiction Writer Cory Doctorow (2010.03.22)
  The hosts first met Cory Doctorow in 2008, when he was giving a book tour for Little Brother in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Doctorow is a science fiction author, activist, journalist, blogger, and a co-editor of Boing Boing. Dale and Brian talk with Doctorow about science and science fiction, privacy, and his new book Makers.
• Lab Out Loud 44: Griff Jones and the IIHS (2010.03.08)
  Griff Jones is an award-winning science teacher plucked from teaching high school to work with UFTeach—a program with the University of Florida designed to increase the quantity and quality of secondary mathematics and science teachers. Griff was also selected to work with the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety to make two videos about understanding the science behind car crashes: Understanding Car Crashes: When Physics Meets Biology and Understanding Car Crashes: It's Basic Physics. Griff talks to to Dale and Brian about the videos, the IIHS, and their many resources for science teachers.
• Lab Out Loud 43: MythBusters' Adam Savage (2010.02.22)
  Brian and Dale first met Adam Savage (from MythBusters) at The Amaz!ng Meeting 7 last summer, where he gave a talk about the creative process and failure that comes with "making." In this episode, Adam talks about MythBusters, science education, and how he uses both experimentation and learning from mistakes in his work both on and off the show.
• Lab Out Loud 42: SOFIA—A Telescope on a Plane (2010.02.08)
  Dana Backman is the Outreach Director for SOFIA—The Stratospheric Observatory for Infrared Astronomy. Essentially, SOFIA is a modified 747SP with telescope in its fuselage. A joint project of NASA and the German Aerospace Center (NASA supplied the aircraft and the telescope was built in Germany), SOFIA is the largest airborne astronomical observatory that will allow astronomers to peer into the visible, infrared and submillimeter spectrum of space—above most of the water vapor in the atmosphere. Dana talks about the aircraft, the mission, and some exciting opportunities for science teachers.
• Lab Out Loud 41: NY Times Science Writer Nicholas Wade (2010.01.25)
  Nicholas talks with Brian and Dale about his new book (The Faith Instinct), recent science breakthroughs, and what to expect in the coming year.
• Lab Out Loud 40: Being Sean Carroll (2010.01.11)
  Dale and Brian have us hearing double as they kick off the new year: two guests named Sean Carroll! Sean Carroll (physicist) and Sean B. Carroll (biologist) talk about their respective science fields, science education, and being Sean Carroll.
• Lab Out Loud 39: Standards and Science Education (2009.12.21)
  Brian and Dale speak with Barry Cartwright, the Science Content Specialist for the Colorado Department of Education. In November, Colorado released the Final Draft of the Colorado Academic Standards in Science. Barry discusses some of the highlights of the new Colorado science standards and the future of standards in science education.
• Lab Out Loud 38: National Lab Day (2009.12.07)
  Dale and Brian's guest this week is Jack Hidary, chairman of National Lab Day. Designed to encourage partnerships between scientists, engineers, teachers, and students, National Lab Day emerged from a partnership between NSTA, the American Chemical Society (ACS), the National Science Foundation (NSF), the Jack D. Hidary Foundation, and the MacArthur Foundation. Jack talks about the program and website, and what educators and other scientists can do to get involved.
• Lab Out Loud 37: Science Because We Can (2009.11.16)
  Dr. Theo Gray has some serious accolades that would make any geek proud: he has won an Ig Nobel prize (2002), been referenced in a Foxtrot comic, and owns the domain name periodictable.com. Dr. Gray talks with Brian and Dale about his tables, science experiments and safety, Wolfram Alpha, and even answers some student questions.
• Lab Out Loud 36: The Scientific Method Starts with Curiosity (2009.11.02)
  With the upcoming 2009 HHMI Holiday Lecture on Science in December (Exploring Biodiversity), Brian and Dale decided to talk with one of the presenters—Dr. Bonnie Bassler. The focus of Dr. Bassler's research is on how bacteria communicate with each other in a process called quorum sensing. This research earned her a MacArthur fellowship in 2002, and her work is being carefully watched for the development of new antimicrobial drugs. Dr. Bassler inspires us with her curiosity, her research, and science education.
• Lab Out Loud 35: The Quantum Frontier (2009.10.19)
  With the Large Hadron Collider scheduled to come back online in November, Dale and Brian were able to talk with writer and physicist Don Lincoln again (see episode 8). Dr. Lincoln talks about the LHC and his new book, The Quantum Frontier.
• Lab Out Loud 34: Gene Therapy for Colorblind Monkeys (2009.10.05)
  Lab Out Loud's guest this week is Dr. Jay Neitz from the department of Ophthalmology at the University of Washington, Seattle. Dr. Neitz and his research team successfully used gene therapy to replace a faulty gene responsible for red-green colorblindness in adult male squirrel monkeys. Brian and Dale talk with Dr. Neitz about his experiment, its implications for gene therapy in humans, and the process of science that led him to this breakthrough.
• Lab Out Loud 33: Meet NSTA’s Executive Director (2009.09.21)
  Dale and Brian open their third season with Dr. Francis Eberle, executive director of NSTA. Francis talks about his role at NSTA and gives some insights into a few new initiatives from NSTA.

Season 2

• Lab Out Loud 32: Neil deGrasse Tyson on Science Literacy (2009.05.11)
  Dr. Tyson is has been described as the "Carl Sagan of the 21st Century" and named "Sexiest Astrophysicist Alive" by People magazine. He has appeared numerous times on The Colbert Report and The Daily Show, stars in the PBS series NOVA Science Now, and is the director of the American Museum of Natural History's Hayden Planetarium. Dr. Tyson joins Dale and Brian in the Lab Out Loud season finale to talk about scientific literacy.
• Lab Out Loud 31: The AMS Education Program (2009.04.27)
  Brian and Dale's guest this week is Jim Brey, Director of the Education Program at the American Meteorological Society. Jim talks about the AMS Education Program, which promotes the teaching of atmospheric, oceanographic, and hydrologic sciences through pre-college teacher training and instructional resource material development.
• Lab Out Loud 30: Lights, Camera, Sea Turtles! (2009.04.13)
  Dale and Brian chat with Dr. Heithaus, director of the Marine Sciences Program at Florida International University in Miami. He has also worked with National Geographic's Crittercam, and you might recognize his name as the author of Holt Biology (the "cheetah book"). Dr. Heithaus talks about his research, his interest in science, and how there's more science than you might realize in marine science.
• Lab Out Loud 29: We're All Stellar Corpses (2009.03.30)
  Brian and Dale's guest this week is Dr. Michelle Thaller. A research scientist at the California Institute of Technology, Thaller is currently the Manager of the Education and Public Outreach program for the Spitzer Space Telescope. Thaller talks to us about Spitzer, infrared light, and our origins in stellar corpses.
• Lab Out Loud 28: Who Watches The Watchmen? Scientists Do! (2009.03.09)
  Dale and Brian's guest this week is Jennifer Ouellette, director of the Science and Entertainment Exchange. The Exchange provides entertainment industry professionals with access to top scientists and engineers to help bring the reality of cutting-edge science to creative and engaging storylines. Jennifer talks about her work with the Exchange and how scientists advise pop culture—including movies like The Watchmen and TV shows like Fringe and The Big Bang Theory.
• Lab Out Loud 27: Questions with Skeptoid (2009.02.23)
  Brian and Dale welcome Brian Dunning to the show—the man behind Skeptoid. Skeptoid: Critical Analysis of Pop Phenomena is a weekly proscience, antipseudoscience podcast. Brian talks about working on the podcast, practicing the scientific method, and using skepticism in the science classroom.
• Lab Out Loud 26: Stories of Evolution (2009.02.09)
  Dr. Sean B. Carroll returns to the show this week to celebrate Darwin Day (Feb. 12, 2009). With two new books out (Remarkable Creatures and Into the Jungle), Dr. Carroll discusses the power of storytelling in teaching science offering along the way a story of how Darwin, Alfred Russell Wallace, and Henry Walter Bates all contributed in developing the theory of evolution.
• Lab Out Loud 25: Science in its Rightful Place (2009.01.26)
  Dale and Brian speak with Jodi Peterson, Assistant Executive Director for the NSTA Office of Legislative and Public Affairs. They discuss what we might see for science and science education with the Obama administration.
• Lab Out Loud 24: The Bad Astronomer Returns (2009.01.12)
  Brian and Dale welcome Phil Plait (aka The Bad Astronomer) back to the show. Phil talks about the International Year of Astronomy and highlights a few events planned for the IYA. As President of the James Randi Educational Foundation, Phil also discusses the role of skepticism in education.
• Lab Out Loud 23: The Periodic Table of Videos (2008.12.15)
  Dr. Martyn Poliakoff, CBE—a research professor at the University of Nottingham—talks about The Periodic Table of Videos, an entertaining and informative set of short movies on each of the elements.
• Lab Out Loud 22: When Good Chemicals Go Bad (2008.12.01)
  Maryann Suero and Ken Roy warn us of safety dangers lurking in schools—both in the science lab and beyond.
• Lab Out Loud 21: Dr. Kiki, Never Too Cool for Science (2008.11.17)
  "Dr. Kiki" is Kirsten Sanford, Ph.D. (Neurophysiology), who is making her way in independent science media and journalism.
• Lab Out Loud 20: Ed Begley Jr. on Science and the Environment (2008.11.03)
  Brian and Dale chat with Ed about science, the environment, and his show, Living with Ed.
• Lab Out Loud 19: Bioethics with Jeffrey Kahn (2008.10.20)
  Dr. Jeffrey Kahn is Director of the Center for Bioethics at the University of Minnesota. Dr. Kahn reminds us of the importance of ethics in science—from the classroom to public policy.
• Lab Out Loud 18: Science Matters 2008 (2008.10.06)
  As we rapidly approach November 4th, Dale and Brian were able to talk with Lesley Stone from SEA (Scientists and Engineers for America) to discuss the role of science in the upcoming elections.
• Lab Out Loud 17: Sir Harold Kroto on Science Education (2008.09.22)
  To open their second season, Brian and Dale talked with Sir Harold Kroto. Kroto won the Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 1996 (along with Curl and Smalley) for the discovery of fullerenes. He talks to us about a loss of hands-on experiences in our world and how to reform science education, and offers a new resource for science (and other) educators.

Season 1

• Lab Out Loud 16: Building Connections in Science Education (2008.05.19)
  In this episode, Dale and Brian chat with Dr. Karen Harpp, Associate Professor in Geology at Colgate University in New York. Dr. Harpp talks about her research, science outreach, and creating connections between science teachers and researchers.
• Lab Out Loud 15: Expelled Exposed (2008.05.05)
  In response to the movie Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, we decided to talk with someone who has invested her life defending evolution. Dr. Eugenie Scott, Director for the National Center for Science Education, talks to us about the movie, the NCSE response, and the place of evolution in science education.
• Lab Out Loud 14: Bill Nye Talks About Energy and More (2008.04.21)
  For our contribution to Earth Day, we had the opportunity to chat with Bill Nye about his new show on the new Planet Green channel called Stuff Happens.
• Lab Out Loud 13: Scepticism and The Bad Astronomer (2008.04.07)
  This week Dale and Brian talk with Terry Devitt from The Why Files: Science Behind the News, the popular website at the University of Wisconsin.
• Lab Out Loud 12: Skepticism and The Bad Astronomer (2008.03.17)
  This week's guest calls himself The Bad Astronomer. Phil Plait is an astronomer, an author, and a well-known blogger at www.badastronomy.com. Phil talks to us about myths and skepticism in the science classroom.
• Lab Out Loud 11: Death of the Chemistry Sets (2008.03.03)
  This week Brian and Dale talk with Steve Silberman, contributing editor for Wired magazine. Steve talks to us about the demise of the chemistry set (as related to his article "Don't Try this at Home") and what that might mean for the future of scientific curiosity in our children.
• Lab Out Loud 10: Boston, Here We Come (2008.02.18)
  Get a preview of what's in store for you at the 2008 National Conference on Science Education, as we chat with conference chair Joyce Croce.
• Lab Out Loud 9: Blogging with PZ Myers (2008.02.04)
  In this episode, we chat with PZ Myers, lead author of the blog Pharyngula (Pharyngula is hosted at Science Blogs—a project from Seed magazine). Myers is a biologist and associate professor at the University of Minnesota, Morris.
• Lab Out Loud 8: The Future of Particle Physics (2008.01.21)
  In this episode, Dale talks with physicist Don Lincoln of the DZero detector experiment at Fermilab National Accelerator Laboratories. Don talks about physics, Fermilab, his books, and some opportunities for teachers and students with QuarkNet.
• Lab Out Loud 7: Cloning Monkey Embryos (2008.01.07)
  In this week's episode, we talk with Dr. Shoukhrat Mitalipov about his recent breakthrough in cloning monkey embryos and the scientific methods that got him there.
• Lab Out Loud 6: Adam Rogers from WIRED Science (2007.12.17)
  Adam Rogers discusses the new PBS show titled WIRED Science.
• Lab Out Loud 5: Sir Alec Jeffries and DNA Fingerprinting (2007.12.03)
  Professor Sir Alec Jeffries talks to us about the discovery of DNA fingerprinting, its uses/abuses, and its impact on society.
• Lab Out Loud 4: Science Education Myth? (2007.11.19)
  This week we talk with Vivek Wadhwa, columnist for Business Week, Wertheim Fellow at the Harvard Law School, and executive in residence at Duke University. Wadhwa will be discussing his recent article (The Science Education Myth) regarding science education in the United States.
• Lab Out Loud 3: Steve Squyres and the Roving Mars (2007.11.05)
  This week we talk with Steve Squyres, principal investigator for the science payload on the Mars Exploration Rover Project and Professor of Astronomy at Cornell University in Ithaca, New York.
• Lab Out Loud 2: Biologist Sean B. Carroll (2007.10.22)
  Dr. Sean B. Carroll (Professor of Molecular Biology and Genetics and an Investigator with the Howard Hughes Medical Institute at the University of Wisconsin) talks to us about evolution, his new project, and science literacy.
• Lab Out Loud 1: Introductions and Gerry Wheeler (2007.10.08)
  Meet the hosts of NSTA’s Lab Out Loud podcast—Dale Basler and Brian Bartel. Later, Dale and Brian chat with NSTA Executive Director Gerry Wheeler, who reflects on Sputnik and its impact on science education, the importance of science literacy and 21st century skills, and how NSTA is helping science teachers both young and old.